Showing posts with label auctions. Show all posts
Showing posts with label auctions. Show all posts

Thursday, March 21, 2019

'Chive Cast 96 - Yeet Ree-Yees Sees in Threes


Ol’ Three Eyes is back as Skye and Steve discuss Ree-Yees, his deleted scene, his original design, his cigar habit, his video game skills, his photoart, his sculpt, his trinoculars and even his Dixie cups. Gus Lopez joins the crew to talk about the John Mollo sketchbook, the unproduced White Witch and the 25th Anniversary of the Archive Panel at Celebration Chicago. Finally, Chris Georgoulias and Pete Fitzke hop on to discuss the recent Prop Store auction. All this and a discussion of the most recent scandals from Hasbro and Red Letter Media.





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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
12:34 – Skye-Ku and bad high school joke
15:08 – Behind the Steve & Flip the Script
25:08 – News (Hasbro Retro, Red Letter Media Controversy)
39:27 – Prop Store Auction Intro. (Chris and Pete Join)
54:56 – The Ride on Speeder Bike Auction
1:02:46 – Giant Canadian Plush Chewbacca Display
1:07:01 – Paploo Soft Copy Coin & Star Trek
1:09:57 – Vintage Vocab (Photoart) and Steve’s “discovery”
1:19:48 – Gus Lopez Discusses the “Trinoculars”
1:23:26 – Gus Discusses the John Mollo Sketchbook
1:30:00 – Gus Discusses the White Witch
1:37:32 – Gus Discusses Celebration Chicago Panel and Archive Party
1:42:56 – Nuggets from the Archive (Ron’s Sculpt and Hardcopies)
1:54:00 – Unloved Item (Dixie Cup)
1:59:40 – Feedback and Baseball Returns!



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Wednesday, February 13, 2019

Prop Store Vintage Toys & Collectibles Auction Preview

Pete writes:

 Hello Space Freaks! As part of our ongoing coverage of major auctions in the hobby we start 2019 off with a very special event: the first Vintage Toys & Collectible Auction from Prop Store. For those who don’t follow the collectible props market, Prop Store is one of the premier auction houses for film-related props and artifacts. Today they are one of the most popular auction houses in the science fiction and movie industries as a whole with several major auctions taking place every year across a multitude of items and generations.

From props to comics to now toys, this will be another landmark event for Prop Store. We at the Archive have been given access to some of the behind the scenes happenings that have brought two great things together: Prop Store and toys. We’ll cover a few of the items in the listings themselves, the format, but also a look into how this event came together.


But before we get into that, a check on the vitals:

Dates: February 28th and March 1st
Formats: Online, In Person (with voucher), Phone
Categories: Vintage toys and collectibles, crew-used items, partial collection of Howard Kazanjian (Producer of Return of the Jedi).
Buyers Premium: 24%

Catalog: Printed and PDF through website
Auction Lot Count: 783

Key Auctions:
  • Ride-on Speeder Bike MIB with Store Display
  • Several Boba Fett MOCs including a Meccano
  • Several Revenge of the Jedi Proofs Cards
  • A near full run of MOC figures across all three movies.


The website is now live with the full catalog and bidding open. 

When it comes to the catalog for the auction, it’s something unique when compared with others. One thing that really differentiates it is the background and educational aspects that are weaved in throughout the book. There’s a glossary, vocabulary and reference information that have been included, along with some points on the pages themselves, giving new or seasoned collectors a bit more information on the item and what they're bidding on.



Prop Store did an amazing job explaining the vintage toy segment to their prop customer base through insights and documentation. Covering topics such as prototypes and other pre-production pieces as well as basics of cardback variation and grading, the catalog is a book in and of itself and somewhat of a field guide for new and old collectors alike.


Like Hake's and a few other auction houses across the country, Prop Store still produces a printed catalog for their customers. You can get a copy by signing up online and registering for the auction.

As mentioned before, we got a look inside the auction through the mind of one of the event's experts, our own Chris Georgoulias.





Pete Fitzke: When it came to putting the auction together, what were some of the things that stood out to you?

Chris Georgoulias: There was a lot of minutia and details that had to be managed. A lot of the historical information had to be created for the catalog from scratch and that's really time consuming. Not only the knowledge transfer, but getting the imagery sorted out. Grading is a new process for them. They aren’t used to sending their stuff in and waiting to get it back. It creates challenges logistically with pictures and other aspects of the process that Prop Store wasn’t used to. 

PF: What are your thoughts on the catalog? Is it worth the effort?

CG: When you have a printed catalog, it makes the event feel more legitimate. Originally I didn’t think we needed a printed catalog, but they thought it would be a good idea, and it really does make a splash and help communicate what’s going on with the event and with what we're presenting.


PF: What would you want people to know about this auction?

CG: There are a few cool features that are unique to Prop Store.  One is payment plans – a nice and unique option for the winners, more details are listed in the catalog. Another great payment option is payments from other people. Something you rarely see auctions houses do.

PF: What are some of your favorite items that will be up for auction? 

CG: Wow, a few things that come to mind. The Speeder Bike in the original box with the display and inserts is a great piece. There aren't many of those around.

The Plush Chewbacca QC Sample  is also really interesting as it's so close to the Canadian version, but Kenner, I've never seen one before.

Another fun piece is the Bubbl-matic store display. It's not seen very often and is in great condition.

Lastly there's the X-Wing Aces Game. It's another piece from the Howard Kazanjian collection. What's unique is that is still has the moving label from Los Angeles to Marin County back in the day.




One piece that Chris didn't mention was the above soft copy for the Paploo coin from the 2nd series of the Ewoks cartoon series. Very rare for one of these to come out on the open market, and it's also being sold with an original sketch of the coin artwork.

That concludes our preview coverage of this auction. Check back for the results recap.

Wampa Wampa,
Pete

Thursday, January 11, 2018

'Chive Cast Blog Log Pod Episode 5 - Famous Auctions


"Fratastic" Pete, Skye and Steve discuss many important Vintage Star Wars auctions over the last 20 years with "Ron Ron" Salvatore and Chris Georgoulias. We briefly mention several auctions which we will return to at a later date, but go in depth on the following events:

-The 2002 Celebration II Collector Track Auction
-The 2007 Celebration IV Charity Auction (and the great Lucasfilm Marketing Dumps)
-The 2011 The Boba Fisher Auction somewhere in Pennsylvania
-The 2008 Premier Collectible Auction in San Diego, the greatest and most important Vintage Auction there has ever been and ever will be.

Finally, we discuss the 2017 Hakes Auction which could be a harbinger of things to come. Wait, how many tens of thousands of dollars?  Have a listen and learn how the hobby we love has recently become "Auction House Worthy." Plus...plumbing supply warehouse selling vintage?!


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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
05:41 – "Fratastic" Pete joins the show and discusses the 2007 Lucasfilm Auction
10:59 – Chris Georgoulias joins the show
14:19 – Celebration II Collector Track Auction
17:05 – The DiCaprio Auction
20:15 – Discussion of Celebration III Lucasfilm Marketing Dump (featuring books and animation cels) and the later 2007 Lucasfilm Marketing Dump
24:50 – Celebration IV Charity Auction revisited
26:30 – The Plumbing Supply Warehouse that used to sell merchandise directly from the Lucasfilm archives
29:36 – Boba Fisher: the man and the auction
54:21 – The 2008 PCA San Diego Auction, The Biggest and Best Vintage Auction of all time
01:24:07 – Hakes Round One


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Thursday, November 30, 2017

MarketWatch Special: Hake's Americana Auction - Round 1

Pete writes:

 Hello, Space Freaks. In mid November 2017 we witnessed the first of several major auctions that encompass one of the best Vintage Star Wars collections to ever be put on the auction block. With incredible results across the board, the first round Hake’s Americana auction of the Russell Branton collection certainly was an interesting event and worth reviewing in detail.

Before we look at the auctions themselves, we should talk a little bit about traditional live auctions, online auctions, and how Hake’s Americana has an unusual but effective approach that differs from both.  

In a live auction setting, items don’t have a set start and end time. There is an order of the items going up on the auction block and the hammer is struck once no bids remain. In a traditional online only auction, an item has a set start and end time in which bidders can bid, thus an auction that ends at 8:00 will not be taking bids at 8:01. Simple, I know, but I want to make sure that we’re all on the same page here.

Hake’s approach is different and captures some of the good and the bad of both worlds. Much like an online auction, all of the items have a start and an end time. However, much like a live auction, if a bidder makes a bid it can extend the length of the auction, thus pushing the hammer out further as more people bid. This is a novel concept in that key items can go hours and hours past the listed end time of the auctions as long as people keep bidding. I’m sure this can create frustration for those bidding if their items keep getting pushed out, however for spectators it creates a spectacle and allows everyone to see more of the detailed bidding behavior. The goal here like any business is to make money, and in the end that’s what it does. By allowing the most sought after items to continually go up in price, you give bidders the chance to opt in and rethink their high bids -- and not over the course of seconds, but over the course of hours. This leads to some exciting action among bidding and really changes the game when it comes to strategy in an auction setting.  

AUCTION REVIEW:

We won’t hash through all of the results as they can be found at this link:

Rather, we’ll take a look at some of the key items from the event and discuss the implications of one particular auction in detail. With that, let’s look at the items themselves. 

Ben Kenobi Double Telescoping MOC $76,700 The crème de la crème of the auction was the first of three MOC double telescoping figures that will be auctioned off across the series of auctions. With examples selling for six figures in the past year, this actually wasn’t the biggest head-turner of the event from a results perspective. It was however the highest priced item at the end of the auction and a great item to see in an environment like this, as most of these aren’t sold through public auctions or eBay, but rather through high end dealers and collectors. Needless to say, having a MOC DT of Ben is an incredible sight, rarely seen, very sought after, and ultimately extremely valuable in the world of Star Wars toys.


Anakin Skywalker Dynacast Painted Charcoal Gray Hardcopy $34,981.10 Not to be confused with its more common first shot counterpart, this painted dynacast hardcopy is the envy of many prototype collectors. The price seems to be a bit high, but then again its rarity and desirability make it a unique piece especially in the “up” market that we’re seeing in the pre-production realm.


Boba Fett AFA80 Trilogo MOC – $11,682 We can’t say enough about how cool of a piece this is. Its Trilogo, it has an unpainted knee, and it’s Fett -- all things that lead to appreciation in value and high prices. A beautiful piece in incredible condition with a price tag that would choke a goat, it was great to see this reach a high mark.


Lando Calrissian POTF Hand-Cut Proof Card AFA90 $5,717.69 Given its rarity, this may have been one of the best “deals” of the day if there were any deals to be had. A cut card from the POTF line with no backer printed on it, it may not be one-of-a-kind but it can’t be far from it.  


Stormtrooper ESB 31-Back Proof Card AFA90 – $8,047.60 Although you can buy them in droves as loose figures, when it comes to pre-production, Stormtrooper proofs can be some of the rarest and most expensive. In the ROTJ line the 65A which is the most common proof with a few examples of each character in existence, the Stormtrooper is one of two that only have 2-3 examples known. When you look at the rarity of the 31-Back proofs, this piece along with a few other characters fits into a class all its own in terms of scarcity and demand, thus it was no surprise that this went for big money.


Darth Vader Revenge of the Jedi Proof Card AFA85 – $4,283.40 With a strong ending price, this Revenge Vader proof is one item that continues to go up and up in value over time, in this case passing recent auctions for Boba Fett Revenge proofs in terms of the final price. The Dark Lord of the Sith is one of the most recognizable characters in all of cinema and in the past few years the piece has really risen in value.


The Surprises:

Greedo AFA80 21-Back $1,535 – Kind of crazy, as when you put in the buyer’s premium someone could have bought three of these for the same price on eBay in a given month.


ISP-6 Mini-Rig AFA85 – $1,534 For years I’ve been telling people in the hobby that the ROTJ line is the superior line of the Star Wars series and finally I have proof (J/K). Here I think we have the case of someone struggling to find the grade they wanted and throwing out a crazy number thinking no one will actually bid this up. Then again, MOC Boushh figures have sold for nearly $2K in the past few years, so maybe ROTJ mini-rigs are the next big thing.


Imperial Forces AFA75 Action Figure 3-Pack – $17,133 With all the buzz surrounding this series of auctions, two things seem to be talked about more then anything. First, the fact that examples of all three DT MOC figures will be up for grabs. Second, that an entire set of 3-packs will be up for grabs. Given the latter, I think we have a case of someone really needing to complete a full run as the price here is absurd! Now this is one of the most popular of the 3-packs, but it’s not one of the rarest, and in 75 condition it’s not that great overall. Thus, it’s easy to say that this went way above its actual value; more so than the ISP-6, but not as much as the auction we have yet to discuss.       


Beyond Shocked…..

It goes without saying in auctions like this that something will end up going for crazy amounts of money comparative to their actual value or historical sales prices. While some things are surprising, others just jump into a complete league of their own, and no this doesn’t have anything to do with Madonna, Rosie O’Donnell, or Tom Hanks with a drinking problem...

To close up, let’s look at the auction that has caused so much commotion on social media. Let’s look at the craziest of the crazy, the auction that produced a number that is way out in left field on that thin border that separates the world of the norm from the world of the extreme. Of course, I’m talking about a term we’ve come to use many times on the MarketWatch over the years: the lunatic fringe.

 Luke Skywalker AFA95 12-Back $50,622 The result of this auction poses an interesting question: “What will someone pay for the best condition example of the most iconic Star Wars toy of all time?” The answer is a boatload. I mean that in a literal sense, as you could literally buy a boat and fill it with cash for what someone dropped here.



It’s hard to argue against the notion that the most desirable of all of the original Star Wars toys was Luke Skywalker. He’s the main hero of the movie. His surname and its lineage became the link that will connect 9 movies in the franchise together. And although Vader is probably the most recognizable figure in the Trilogy, Luke was the focal point of the first three movies and his struggle is still regarded by many to be the key thread that pulls the Skywalker saga together.     

I can’t say it’s with no surprise that we saw this piece reach astronomical levels. In fact, without getting into the details I have to say the number is crazy for any long time collector. But let’s look at some of the underlying implications, both with the results and what this could mean for the future of these auctions and the hobby as whole.

We’ve already established the fact that a MOC 12-Back Luke is probably the most commonly sought after piece among MOC collectors in the hobby historically. (Yes, I know that most of you reading this are only interested in foreign double telescoping bootlegs of characters that were never produced, but please humor me here.)

Taking that point into the equation, let’s take a minute to focus on the condition. Needless to say, there isn’t a lot of transactional data around AFA sales above the grade of 90, and of what is out there most are loose figures and proofs. Given this lack of specific data, honing in on similar auctions is difficult, if not impossible. However, there was one example that I was able to pull from this past year. In order to go deeper than this, we move to the next best thing available to us in terms of comparative information from other AFA95 auctions and data from other high grade auctions.  

Earlier this summer some eyes rolled when an AFA95 Yoda sold on eBay for $1,981 -- a figure that that traditionally sells for $4-$500 in AFA80 condition. This gives us a good baseline for the Luke figure in question. This Luke example is a 12C-Back figure and an AFA80 condition usually sells in the $1,500-$2,000 range. Taking the high end of that estimate, we find that our AFA95 brought a 25X lift over its AFA80 brethren. Quite the stretch as we only saw a 4X lift on the Yoda figure.    

Similarly, this summer we also saw an AFA95 Chewbacca 45-Back proof card sell for just over $2K. Given that 90 grade proofs are more attainable (comparatively speaking), we assume that the increase here wouldn’t be that much. In fact, in the past year we’ve actually seen AFA90 examples of a Chewbacca 45-Back proof sell for more than what we saw with the auction for the 95. 

The elasticity of price with items that are clustered around a specific grade such as proof cards has historically lead to only marginally higher prices achieved for those pieces. Thus, an AFA 80, 85, and 90 proof card of the same character and type may only have a 20-30% difference between the 80 and 90 examples. On the inverse, the spread on a MOC figure is much higher with a sometimes 50-100% difference between those same grades. In short, the elasticity of price relative to the type of collectible varies dramatically, and in the world of Star Wars, MOCs do traditionally have the widest spread.  

The aforementioned Chewbacca proof auction illustrates a point in lack of variance in price, however there’s another underlying implication that we can look at when it comes to these results, and it’s a point that a lot of collectors miss: it’s not just about the price and condition, sometimes it’s about the forum. In the case of the AFA95 Chewbacca proof, the item was sold on eBay, while the 90 proof that sold for nearly twice as much sold at Celebration. Thus, the biggest difference was the selling environment. It changes the customer’s mindset, and it potentially brings new buyers to the table by creating a different sense of urgency. In the case of the $50K Luke Skywalker, I have to believe that the forum had a profound impact on the end result.

With all of this in mind, I return to the question I posed at the beginning of the discussion on this piece: how much is the best condition example of the most recognizable/iconic figure in the line truly worth, and what is someone willing to pay for it? Well, it’s going to vary...I know that’s not the answer a lot of you want to hear, but the fact of the matter is there are so many factors that play into an auction price that it’s almost impossible to point a finger at one number. Rather, we have to look at all of the factors in this situation playing together to create the perfect storm that produced a historic high and should be seen as a win in the hobby no matter what your opinion is on the actual results.  

My personal perspective in technical terms is that this was the most insane price ever realized for an item based on its rarity, availability, and condition and it will probably never be repeated. That’s one person’s opinion. What do you think? Post here or on social media at our Facebook page with thoughts on the auctions, and what they mean for the hobby. Was it a fluke, or the new trend...

That’s all for this round, check back in a January for our year-end round up!

Wampa Wampa,
"Fratastic" Pete