Showing posts with label Toltoys. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Toltoys. Show all posts

Monday, February 4, 2019

An Oldie but a Goodie!



Ron writes:

 You may have noticed that vinyl-cape Jawas from non-US locales have been in the news lately. As the linked article explains, SWCA contributor (and good friend) Shane Turgeon has managed to bring to market a rare Canadian example of the figure. So this remembrance by guest blogger (and good friend) Ben Sheehan is timely as well as interesting. Here's Ben to tell us about the time he had in his possession two Australian VC Jawas, both on Empire Strikes Back blister cards.



Ben writes:

Prior to the time this pic was taken in 2002, I’d been attempting (successfully in the end, much to my relief!) to have collectors in the US recognise and understand the history of the vinyl-cape Jawa in Australia. I managed to get the two known MOC examples in the same place at the same time, and send them over to collectors in the US for examination with anecdotal and analytical evidence of what they were.

Even though I knew that the figure was a legitimate variation, explaining that to people half a world away wasn’t entirely easy -- particularly since the only carded examples had shown up on ESB 41 backs. I was lucky enough to have the ear and trust of collectors such as Chris Georgoulias, Ron Salvatore and also Tom Derby though, which helped the cause a great deal.

My MOC ESB Jawa had come directly form a Toltoys salesperson's collection, via a dealer in Melbourne (who had a reputation for faking items no less). I’d spent four or more years scrutinising the figure during the 1990s. During that time the figure even wound up going to the USA for a year or so, including a visit to Kane Country Toy Show, where it was initially rejected since the cape color didn’t match the US version.

I must have looked at blister seals on hundreds of figures during research, before I was satisfied the ESB Jawa was original. I visited the seller often, with magnifying glasses and questions. Finally I learned the name of the guy it had come from, eventually confirmed that story, and pulled the trigger on buying it. The other example was uncovered during this time by Kosta from Sydney's Comic Bug, which was around 900 kilometres away.

At least one other MOC has turned up since, and loose examples have come out of the woodwork steadily from right around that same date (many of us had owned them for years, but it was impossible to get a non-local to believe that they were legit). It was definitely exciting times for me --it seemed I was able to turn up a new Toltoys related MOC variation every other month, particularly in the lead up to the release of John Kellerman's book 2-3 years after I purchased my Jawa.


Many of those variants were featured in John's book, including my Toltoys offer ESB 41 Leia Bespin (still the only one to have shown up, I'm pretty sure), a bunch of sticker and printed offers I owned, and anecdotes here and there. The prices for Toltoys items from ESB and ROTJ were cheap back then too, and there really wasn't much competition for them. For some reason though, John's book ultimately didn't include the ESB VC Jawa -- I can't remember why exactly.


Obviously, lots more neat Toltoys-related product has shown up since the late ‘90s and early 2000s through the incredible work and research of others. For me personally, the period I mention above was definitely the nadir for my research on local Aussie product. Not long after, I steadily began to ditch Toltoys items for either a house project or my prototype collection (probably both). I'd be kidding myself if I said that I don't miss them -- Toltoys items are wonderful, and genuinely rare. Insanely so, even. It was easy to forget this,when you were looking at two MOC ESB Jaws though!


Special thanks here to Chris, Ron, my Australian peers from that time Paul Naylor and Andy Beckerath, along with Mike Mensinger for providing the industrial-strength magnification used in the US for the early examination of the figure.

Monday, April 9, 2018

Star Wars Community Digest Issue #8


Tommy and Yehuda write:

 Welcome to the latest issue of Star Wars Community Digest, your place to get summaries about what's going on in the Star Wars collecting community across all of the forums and Facebook groups. We will present the news and current events each week, so that you don't miss anything. Please be aware that many of these are closed Facebook groups though, which means you will need to join them in order to read the conversations. But don't worry, it's free and almost instantaneous.

Participating Groups and forums:
Star Wars Displays and Advertising
Star Wars Records and Tapes
Star Wars 12 Backs and Early Vintage Collectors Group (A New Hope 1977-79)
Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Vintage Collecting Group 1980-1982
Star Wars: Return of The Jedi Vintage Collecting Group 1983 - 1985
Star Wars: POTF (Last 17) Vintage Collecting Group 1985
Star Wars: The "Dark Times" Collecting Group (1985-95, Droids & Ewoks, etc)
Jabba's Court - Vintage Star Wars Collectors Group 1977 - 1988
The Imperial Commissary - 1977-1985 Vintage Star Wars Toys, Buy Sell Trade
Power Of The Force Coins
Star Wars bootleg and knockoff collectors
Star Wars Micro Machines and Action Fleet Collecting Group
vintage star wars action figures
The RebelScum vintage forum
Jawa's Outpost (UK and EIRE Star Wars trading group)
Echo Base Vintage Star Wars Trade/Sell/Buy
The Prototype Exchange

If you are an administrator or moderator and would like your community to be a part of this feature, please let us know. We are always happy to include additional groups/forums in our summaries, but be aware that not every group can be featured every week.

In any case, lets get right down to it and get everyone caught up to date on what they may have missed last week...



Jabba Line Art Boxes: Legit or Custom?


What starts out as a collector in the Echo Base group warning the community about the fact he was scammed on a line art Jabba the Hutt set, quickly turns into a thread about whether or not ALL line art Jabba the Hutt sets are a scam. Legend has it that they are either a department store catalog variation or were created by a collector in the 1990s using factory overstock. The community debates the issue.

The full thread can be found here:
Jabba Line art boxes

Further reading:
Line Art Jabba boxes: Did stores really use them?  


Star Wars and the Old West


 As a cost and time saving measure, toy companies including Kenner would reuse older toy designs and toy molds on new lines with added modifications. Kenner reused the molds from their Creature Cantina action playset to produce their Real West Cafe playset as part of their Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid line. The familiar similar features of the toys make for an interesting comparison in this thread from the Imperial Commissary. 

The full thread can be found here:

Further reading on the Archive:
Recycling the Force


Fake Holiday Special Figures Turn Up on eBay


If you've been following the Star Wars Community Digest, you know that we are entirely against unmarked customs of actual prototypes. They can confuse buyers. Such is (in our opinion) the case with a recent series of auctions on eBay. All of them are advertised as customs in the auction title, but then the description includes such misleading details as "All prototypes in this auction are actually figures [the Kenner designer] himself designed and engineered or hand painted." But the figures being auctioned off aren't prototypes. At all.

To be clear: these are toys created in the modern era, allegedly by an ex-employee. Whether that is actually the case or not, it still doesn't justify the HUGE ending price. Generally speaking, no one pays $2,100 for three custom figures, unless they're confused by the misleading item description and assume they are genuine prototypes. Or maybe they just have a TON of money to waste on loose toys that someone has recently played arts and crafts with. Either way, auctions like these would be a lot clearer if the artist had marked them as reproductions in some way. Then, the people who were interested in owning them would know what they were buying, and no one would lose money because of vague and misleading descriptions.

The community also identifies other problems with this series of auctions, from accusations of shill bidding to reports of fake autographs being peddled by the same seller.

The full thread discussing these auctions can be found here:
Custom Holiday Special Figures on eBay

Further reading on the Archive:
Genuine set of Conceptual Chewbacca Family Figures from the SW Holiday Special
(As an editors note: the SW Community Digest would again urge the community to only purchase replicas from responsible artists who protect collectors from future fraud by marking their creations as replicas in some obvious and permanent way. The artists are in the best position to ensure that no one is mislead or defrauded. If they refuse to mark them, they are simply emboldening scammers or are in league with them, and that should never be supported by the community. If it isn't marked as a replica, don't buy from that artist. Period.)


 Sears Canada Skin-Wrapped Figures


In 1980-1981, Sears stores throughout Canada offered multipacks of carded figures which each included an early release of one of 7 new figures for The Empire Strikes Back. These figures were released prior to the production of the individual cardback art and figure bubbles. The figures were released on black cards with the figures skin-wrapped to the cardback.

David Gaule limelight’s his collection of Sears Canada skin-wrapped figures in this thread from the Empire Strikes Back group

The full thread can be found here:

Further reading:


Bucket Coin Find: Part IV


Way back in our first issue of Star Wars Community Digest we detailed a find of POTF coins, which had some troubling abnormalities about them. As time has gone on, the community has debated whether or not the coins were genuine or fakes. Last week, the POTF Coin group returned to the issue to see what the consensus was.

The full thread can be found here:
Bucket Find: Part 4

Further reading:

Bootleg Ceramic Star Wars Lamps


Follow the conversation as it delves into the variety and the origins of early bootleg ceramic lamps in this thread from the Star Wars 12-Backs group. 

The full thread can be found here:

Further reading on the Archive:

Sigma Ceramics Vader Display


A collector asks the Star Wars Store Displays and Advertising group for information on this interesting store display. As it turns out, it's an awesome shelving display used to sell the vintage ceramics released by the Sigma company.

The full thread can be found here:
Sigma Vader Display

Further reading on the Archive:
Sigma entries on The Archive Database


Unproduced Droids & Ewoks and their Continued Appreciation


The unproduced second wave of Droids and Ewoks figures which were proposed in 1985 were never released as the entire Kenner Star Wars toy line was canceled. These figures still exist in single digit numbers in variable pre-production stages acquired from Kenner employees. The continued allure of these figures remains strong for many collectors and is discussed in this thread from the Empire Strikes Back group.

The full thread can be found here:

Further reading on the Archive:


Landspeeders with Sticker Details to Apply


A rare Landspeeder variant from Australia is found in Canada. Follow how Australian vehicles migrated to North American retailers in 1978 in this thread from the Imperial Commissary.

The full thread can be found here:

Further reading:


Burger King Displays Were Hot Last Week


Promotional displays for the vintage Burger King glasses were all over the Displays group last week, and they were all awesome! While the glasses themselves are semi-ubiquitous, the displays are always a real treat to see, particularly when they're as rare as these examples are!

The threads in question can be found here:

Further reading on the Archive:


Our Star Wars Community Digest Time Capsule Thread for this Issue: 

A period show report from the 1983 LosCon Sci-Fi Convention 


In late 1982, Lucasfilm sent its representatives to the LosCon sci-fi convention to promote Return of the Jedi, which would be released the following year. ARPANET user "RAND@sri-unix" returned from the convention, signed into the net.sf-lovers newsgroup (it's like a discussion forum mixed with email, only from waaaaaay back in the day), and shared his thoughts on the event and the shocking information he was able to garner from it.

For instance, as it turns out, LFL confirmed that Obi-Wan was a ghost in ROTJ (or as the representative is quoted as saying: "He's still dead, or in heaven or wherever Jedi go when they die"). Other interesting tidbits is the first announcement of Mon Mothma to the Star Wars fandom... despite the fact that someone was reportedly already at the convention cosplaying Mon Mothma. Which is really weird. And also impressive. I can only assume it was the character herself, searching for more Bothans to ruthlessly sacrifice for the greater good.

In any event, if you're interested in the early days of the Star Wars fandom or the history of sci-fi conventions in general, this is an interesting thread. 

It can be found here:

Friday, June 26, 2015

Summer MarketWatch is Upon Us...Soon, Spring Must Fall

Pete writes:

Happy Summer Space Freaks! Well, sometimes you hope to get a post up one month and it gets pushed to another. Such is the case with this month's MarketWatch segment, however I wanted to make sure that everyone got a chance to see some of the craziness that was up on eBay this Spring (with the delay, some of the original listings are no longer available for viewing).


With the market humming these past few months and surely carrying all the way through the year (and even through the normal Spring slump), this is not only a great but extremely interesting time to be collector. I’m here to give you some of the best nuggets of past few months on eBay with a mix of production, pre-production, and foreign items.
Starting off, we have the only domestic production piece of our update. The Falcon has become a very tough-to-find piece when it comes to vehicles. Regardless of having iterations in each of the three toy line releases, its size and popularity make it a coveted and expensive piece to find sealed. In fact, there are only a handful of sealed Falcons that hit the market each year and the number has been depleting. This is due to a few factors, one of which being deterioration of the packaging, specifically the tape. The tape used on the Falcon and a lot of the larger vehicles is extremely sensitive to temperature and humidity, thus a lot of examples have seen the tape role and detach from the box entirely.  
This example of the Falcon is unique in that it’s one of the few items to have a Cloud City setting on the box along with Slave 1, and the Cloud Car. It ties in nicely to the thematic aspect of the Falcon’s landing at Cloud City, and is fairly accurate in terms of the figure layout.  
Because of the finite selection of these pieces, it’s not surprising the an AFA85 example of this piece demanded a price tag of $3,500. That may seem high for historical prices but in this day and age that’s completely par for the course.
Falcon ESB Bespin AFA85 - $3,500

Moving on, we have our first of two pre-production items.  This "Blue Harvest" C-3PO hardcopy is a great example of the figure in a pre-production format. Although it's a "second generation" hardcopy from the early 1990s, it's still an extremely highly sought after piece.   These prototypes have a niche of their own in the hobby and go for a high price given they are essentially 2nd generation items vs. true vintage.
C-3PO Blue Harvest Hardcopy - $1500 (Best Offer Accepted)
Our next pre-production piece comes from the most readily available sector of proofs and pre-production packaging, the Revenge of the Jedi line. Although there are roughly 50 examples of each figure available as Revenge proof cards, the vehicles are a different story with only a handful of examples of each in existence.   Some like the Rebel Transport and AT-AT are more readily available than others, but all in all these are a bit tougher to come across than the proof cards. This box flat example is definitely one of those that falls on the rare side. Like many of the box mock-ups for the line, the Scout Walker was based on the artwork that was used in the Empire Strikes Back. This can be seen on the vehicle proofs as well as other box mock-ups like the MTV-7, MLC-3, and X-Wing.  Although this artwork was released in a short run on the ROTJ line, the vast majority of production examples under that banner feature the Endor setting. Thus, this is a great piece for someone who wants this artwork with the Jedi logo. With a price tag of $1,500 I know of at least one ROTJ collector who is perturbed that they didn’t grab this when they could have -- it’s a great price on an item that has maybe 2-3 examples in existence.
Scout Walker Revenge Box Flat - $1,500

Rounding out this month we have four foreign release figures featuring pieces from the Clipper, Harbert, Meccano and Toltoys lineups -- a true myriad of items from across the globe. If you’re not familiar with these lines I recommend reading up on these here on the SWCA's Lexicon and other forums, as the rich history behind each of these companies and their take on the domestic release is pretty remarkable in some ways and anti-climatic in others.
To start, of our four auctions that would be as costly a new compact car we have a Clipper figure from Belguim. This C-3PO figure is quite similar to the domestic release for Star Wars. With the same imagery and dimension as the 12 back release there’s very little variation. The key differences here are the Clipper logo, which would change as the releases would move forward, and the backer. Clipper figures from the original release for Star Wars are by far the most difficult to find, and this is a great example in fairly good condition receiving a 75 overall from AFA. Given the rarity and demand for these figures the price tag of $4K doesn’t seem too far off, but is a bit high given some recent sales. Still, with its limited supply if you were trying to track this figure down you definitely wouldn’t hesitate to drop that type of coin on a great example like this.
C-3PO Clipper AFA75 - $4,161
Hailing from Italy, the Harbert series of figures is a coveted foreign release line in the annals of vintage Star Wars collecting. The line was very small in terms of total release and the figures are some of the most difficult to find in any release of figures. When you couple this with a favorite character like Yoda you have a $5K+ price tag without breaking a sweat. Condition is everything in vintage collecting and this example is definitely not in the upper echelon, with multiple creases and a yellow bubble. Despite that, someone did fork out over $5K for the item -- something not seen with may single figures even in the up market the hobby is experiencing these days.
Yoda Harbert - $5,675
I can never resist highlighting a Meccano figure. It seems every time a good condition example of these square carded examples comes up I have to show it off. More common than Harbert and Clipper figures, the Meccano line has been a favorite of collectors for years due to its availability and quirky square cardbacks that give a slight variation to something very familiar. Here we have the original Leia, seeing a price tag of $3,500 -- not bad price for an AFA80 example. I don’t believe she is one of the rarer figures in the Meccano line, but with great condition comes a high price.
Leia Meccano AFA80 $3,500

Rounding out our four figures for the day is something unique from our friends down under at Toltoys, and also our friends down under at AFA. A Vinyl Cape Jawa Toltoys figure MOC? Yes, that’s a question because should we really classify something that is no longer attached to the card? What we have here is a bit of a mystery.  This is an example of an ESB Toltoys Jawa with a vinyl cape. As most know the vinyl cape Jawas were only released on Star Wars cards domestically and only for a short time as they were quickly replaced by the cloth cape to give the figures more value in the customers' eyes. This particular figure is part of a few foreign production companies that kept the vinyl cape intact through the Star Wars release and even into the ESB release. Thus, this is one of the rarest versions of one of the rarest figures in the vintage series.   So rare that when you read the fine print on the CIB it’s believed to be authentic, but due to not having a history of ownership they will not 100% legitimize the figure as being authentic. Packaged with the ESB cardback itself and loose cased inside the larger case it’s a unique display of an item that is a bit of a legend in the hobby. The price tag for the item seems low given the rarity, but given the context of the figure itself and inability to verify authenticity most collectors will proceed with caution on an item like this.
Vinyl Cape Jawa Toltoys – AFA80 - $3,199.99
That wraps up the Spring MarketWatch. We’ll have the June post featured in 'Chive Cast 62 up soon.
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Tuesday, January 20, 2015

The Palitoy Death Star: Ingenuity + Frugality = Greatness

Ron writes:

Recently, my friend Yehuda Kleinman told me about the differences he'd noticed among the various versions of what is usually known as the "Palitoy Death Star." I asked him to write this summary putting them into context. So without further ado, here's guest blogger Yehuda on one of my favorite Star Wars toys.

Yehuda writes:

As Kenner Star Wars toys took the United States by storm, it wasn't long before the rest of the world was to follow. Kenner toys -- having successfully risen to the challenge of delivering action figures, playsets and vehicle toys for the first Star Wars movie to children in the United States -- was poised to now market these toys to children throughout the rest of the world.
              
Kenner toys, being a United States-based toy manufacturer, partnered with well-established foreign toy manufactures in different parts of the world to take over production of the Star Wars toys for the various foreign markets.

Foreign toy manufacturing companies ran into several additional financial obstacles during the production of Star Wars toys. First and foremost, a large licensing fee had to be paid to Kenner for the privilege of producing the toys. Another financial hurdle, particularly for the European markets, was the higher cost of plastics and plastic manufacturing.


In order to make producing toys in the foreign markets feasible and profitable, cost cutting measures had to be taken. This article will be one in a series focusing on the unique differences of the toys and playsets produced worldwide due to this phenomenon. Collectors have grown to appreciate these rare foreign sets for their unique, kitschy, cheaper appearance and alternate features, many of them made with differing materials. Although these changes, at times, decreased the play value of a toy, surprisingly, the changes were often an improvement over the original, more expensive designs. In the case of the Death Star, the necessary changes yielded a beloved, completely unique toy not available in the United States. This post will focus on the European Death Star playset. Originally designed and manufactured by the Palitoy company as an answer to Kenner's "Death Star Space Station." The article will also delineate differences in the sets as they were manufactured globally by other companies.



One of the most well known alliances that Kenner toys ever had was with the Palitoy toy company located in the United Kingdom. 

Palitoy was able to produce the first 20 carded figures in a fashion nearly identical to those released in the United States. Though their packaging required minor design changes, there was no sacrifice in quality. However, the financial burdens required by design changes significantly increased with the size of the toy. In general, the larger the plastic toy to be made, the more radical the changes that will be found in the foreign editions.

The Kenner Death Star Space Station was by far the biggest playset that Kenner manufactured for the first Star Wars film. It featured four large plastic floors, and included a plastic elevator, drawbridge, gunner floor with exploding gun, and a working trash compactor with trap door. In order to manufacture a Death Star to Kenner standards, Palitoy had to produce a version with all these features and at the same time keep costs low by using very little plastic. Their solution was cardboard. Where other toys were concerned, Palitoy did its best to stay true to the original Kenner designs. With the cardboard Death Star, however, they created an entirely original design -- one that completely reinterpreted the features of the Kenner toy. 



Termed simply the "Death Star" on the box or the " Death Star Play Centre" on the instruction sheet, the playset was a sturdy cardboard hemisphere with colorful graphics measuring approximately 24 inches in diameter and 12 inches in height. Its only plastic parts were a plastic garbage chute; 12 plastic clips to attach the walls of the playset to the base (of which only 10 are needed and two are spare); 6 clear plastic figure stands; a small, very flimsy black gunner chair with a clear canopy; and two guns (identical to those found on the X-Wing).


Palitoy's solution to the Death Star was later adopted by four other countries for manufacture due to its successful cost-cutting measures. Each of the five countries featured minor variations in either packaging or in the playset itself.

The toy was manufactured in Great Britain by Palitoy, Australia by Toltoys Australia, New Zealand by Toltoys New Zealand, France by Meccano, and Canada by Kenner Canada.

Each Country produced a unique box and unique set of instructions, yielding five boxed variations. The Kenner Canada playset also has a special offer version sold through the Sears Christmas Wishbook, which included a special offer sticker advertising two free Stormtroopers included with the playset, bringing the total number of boxed variations to six. 


These are as follows:

1. UK: Death Star - Standard palitoy box.

2. France: Etoile Noir - Same graphics, but with text translated into French, and a Meccano logo.

3. Kenner Canada: Death Star - Same graphics, but with Kenner logo.

4. Kenner Canada: Death Star - Special offer with sticker advertising two included stormtroopers, and a  Kenner logo.

5. Australia: Death Star - Toltoys logo.

6. New Zealand: Death Star - Toltoys logo, and a unique board-game-style box with a bottom and a lid.

The loose sets, however, comprise only three variations, as the those released in the United Kingdom and France are identical and share Palitoy markings. Additionally, the Toltoys Australia playset is identical to the loose Toltoys set native to New Zealand. 


The loose variation breakdown is as follows:

1. Britain and France: The standard Palitoy version, with Palitoy logo on base. 


2. Australia and New Zealand: Nearly identical, but with two major differences. First, and most obvious, the base features the base features the Toltoys logo and associated information.  


Second, the Toltoys version is made from a material is that is quite different from its European counterpart. Specifically, it's slightly denser. In addition, parts from this set can be differentiated from the Palitoy version by looking at the most superficial layer of the cardboard just beneath the graphics layer on either side of each part. The cardboard on these sets is brown in the innermost portion but tan on the more superficial layers below the graphics, giving the cardboard a striped appearance.



3. Canada: Produced by Kenner Canada subsidiary Irwin Toys, a board game manufacturer, this version lacks graphics on the bottom of the base. Instead, it features a leatherette backing similar to what would be found on the back of a board game. Additionally, Canada being a bi-lingual country, with laws mandating that commercial goods feature both English and French markings, there are some language differences on the Canadian version of the toy. Specifically, the sign above the the trash compactor is printed in both English and French. This is especially interesting considering that, in France, Meccano released the standard Palitoy set printed only in English. 


Some other thoughts.

1. The parts of all these sets are compatible, and many sets have been pieced together over the years, leading to a lot of hybrids. 

2. All sets were accompanied by an instruction sheet from the country of origin.

3. All sets came with two plastic bags, a large one for the cardboard parts and a smaller one for the plastic ones, and no cardboard box inserts. 

4. The set came with two mirrored stickers, to be applied to the base.

5. Some of the Palitoy playsets came with the rare mini-catalog featuring the cardboard Death Star on its cover.

6. The plastic guns are the same as the standard guns found on the X-Wing vehicle.


7. Canada was the only country to have both the plastic version and the cardboard version of the Death Star available at retail. Even Kenner Canada's plastic Death Star had unique packaging. Not only was the box bilingual, it had a unique closure, opening with a hinge situated on the long axis.

8. There are other noticeable differences between the sets, including color variations in printing and slight size changes in cutout size.



9. Of note, the clear plastic stands that were included with the playset were manufactured by Palitoy for their Action Force line. Below is a picture of an Action Force weapon pack, which includes a Palitoy figure stand as well as another rare Star Wars part, the alternate rifle for the Hoth Stormtroper given away as a premium in Germany with a YPS comic.


Below you will also see pictures of the seventh -- and rarest -- version of the playset. Titled The "Ice Star" it was only available in Seattle in the Summer of 2013.