Showing posts with label Ben Kenobi. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ben Kenobi. Show all posts

Sunday, July 31, 2022

'Chive Cast 123 - Obi-Wan Kenobi (Disney+) Vintage Winners & Losers



Which vintage (and modern) Star Wars collectibles "won" the new Obi-Wan Kenobi show on Disney+? Join Skye and Steve as they break it all down with the traditional Top 10 countdown.



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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
00:00 — Intro
08:32 — #10 Winner: Emperor
10:33 — #10 Loser: Star Destroyer
12:16 — Interlude about music 
17:40 — #9 Loser: R2 & 3P0
20:01 — #8 Winner: Jawa
23:41 — #8 Loser: Imperial Troop Transporter
23:41 — #7 Loser: Rebel Snowspeeder
28:34 — #7 Winner: Imperial Probe Droid
31:02 — #6 Winner: Stormtrooper
35:26 — #6 Loser: Imperial Troop Transport
36:28 — #5 Loser: Anakin Skywalker
37:59 — #5 Winner: Power Droid
40:48 — #4 Loser: Cantina Aliens
41:53 — Steve and Skye’s Wacky Dino-Assassin Aside
46:35 — #4 Winner: Leia
50:52 — #3 Winner: Obi-Wan Kenobi
58:05 — #3 Loser: Tusken Raiders
59:07 — #2 Winner: Darth Vader
1:08:56 — Interlude on Vader Obi-Wan Duel
1:15:33 — #2 Loser: Luke 
1:18:22 — #1 Winners and Losers

Tuesday, August 27, 2019

Summer 2019 MarketWatch


Pete writes:

 Hello Space Freaks!

 As we melt our way through Summer let’s take a look back at how the market has been shaping up since the end of the Spring and into the season of collecting.



The Celebration Effect:

As with every year of a Celebration, the surrounding months were very light in terms of major market activity. Average prices dropped, availability dropped, and this is to be expected. When you take 100,000 Star Wars fans and drop them together in a giant convention center, some sales are going to happen and budgets are going to be blown. This year I think the effect was even greater than in years past, in part due to the lack of things to do at the convention center. There was no time spent line queuing overnight, and a lottery system that basically left a large part of the audience with no access to stages led to more time on the convention floor.

The market has finally picked up following this typical slump. Recent auction house sales along with some treats that hit the market in May, June, and July led to a good rebound from the lull taking place post Celebration Chicago. Here are some of the highlights.

EBAY:

Ben Kenobi Meccano MOC - $1,800 - eBay listing
One of the more common of the Meccano figures, here we have a great example of Ben with a decent price overall given its condition. 



Radio Controlled R2-D2 AFA 80 - $2,200 - eBay listing
A great piece and tough to find in good condition, the RC R2-D2 is one of the truly great one-off toys in the vintage Star Wars toy line. A strong price on a piece that doesn’t come up as often as they did historically, showing condition is everything these days.

Loose Set of 77 Complete - $2,225 - eBay listing
We don’t cover loose pieces that often on the MarketWatch unless they're of unique origins. When full sets turn up I try to pop them in here just to keep track of where the market has been. In this case, the market still seems to be creeping up on loose figures, as with no rarities or POTF figures this was a bit of a high point at an average of nearly $30 per figure.




ESB Red Six Pack Set MIB - $3,170 - eBay listing
This was a very good price for what was an overall strong piece. Like almost all boxed multi-packs the box itself was where the majority of condition issues came in with one large tear, but overall solid condition structurally.   



Darth Vader 12 Back AFA 95 - $6,100 - eBay listing
Like some of the Hake’s auctions last year we have a crazy price being realized for a one of the nicest MOCs out there. Getting the grade of 90 or higher is not an easy task with the vintage Star Wars line and thus these mint condition items will always bring a premium. This is one case where we do see some depreciation from the item's sale at Hake’s last year.


Death Star AFA 85 - $6,855 - eBay listing
One of the holy grails for collectors of sealed items, the Death Star Playset is always a favorite among collectors. Here we have an immaculate example of this beast of a playset. Given the size and rarity of sealed examples it’s hard to say that this is over-priced. Rather, I think it’s about right, but like many things is seeing a bit of a premium.


First 21 on Star Wars Cardbacks - $12,600 
Finding a nice set of the first 21 on Star Wars cardbacks is one of the most common runs collectors seek. And for good reason -- they were some of the most heavily produced toys in the vintage line.   Even with that information in mind it was nice to see what was still a very palatable selling price on a nice set with an average of $600 per figure.




HAKE'S

Rocket-Firing Boba Fett L-Slot Prototype AFA 85 - $112,926 - auction listing
First off, I won’t infer that people were on some type of substance while bidding on this auction, as there are always outliers. I’m always excited to see things reach new heights as it means things are healthy in the hobby, but there was something almost off-putting about how the Rocket-Firing Fett auction ended, as unlike the last auction this was the more common unpainted L-Slot.

Darth Vader’s TIE Fighter MISB AFA 85 - $19,989 - auction listing
Another piece of noteworthiness was an original DV Tie Fighter, which came just shy of breaking $20K!


Both high grade examples went for well beyond estimates and stood out against the rest of the gallery of items.

On the inverse we did see a few good deals that night as well.

Anakin Skywalker Charcoal First Shot AFA 85 - $4,802 - auction listing
Although high end estimates on this piece were in the 5-figure range, this example of a Charcoal First Shot Anakin Skywalker failed to break the $5K mark with a modest selling price of $4,802. Anyone looking for a great deal on a first shot, well you just missed an opportunity…  Given $7K+ selling prices for the more common first shots in the past year, it’s difficult to see why this example didn’t pull in a better price.



That’s it for this time, but we’ll have more updates on the market and other topics coming soon.

Wampa Wampa,
Pete

Thursday, November 30, 2017

MarketWatch Special: Hake's Americana Auction - Round 1

Pete writes:

 Hello, Space Freaks. In mid November 2017 we witnessed the first of several major auctions that encompass one of the best Vintage Star Wars collections to ever be put on the auction block. With incredible results across the board, the first round Hake’s Americana auction of the Russell Branton collection certainly was an interesting event and worth reviewing in detail.

Before we look at the auctions themselves, we should talk a little bit about traditional live auctions, online auctions, and how Hake’s Americana has an unusual but effective approach that differs from both.  

In a live auction setting, items don’t have a set start and end time. There is an order of the items going up on the auction block and the hammer is struck once no bids remain. In a traditional online only auction, an item has a set start and end time in which bidders can bid, thus an auction that ends at 8:00 will not be taking bids at 8:01. Simple, I know, but I want to make sure that we’re all on the same page here.

Hake’s approach is different and captures some of the good and the bad of both worlds. Much like an online auction, all of the items have a start and an end time. However, much like a live auction, if a bidder makes a bid it can extend the length of the auction, thus pushing the hammer out further as more people bid. This is a novel concept in that key items can go hours and hours past the listed end time of the auctions as long as people keep bidding. I’m sure this can create frustration for those bidding if their items keep getting pushed out, however for spectators it creates a spectacle and allows everyone to see more of the detailed bidding behavior. The goal here like any business is to make money, and in the end that’s what it does. By allowing the most sought after items to continually go up in price, you give bidders the chance to opt in and rethink their high bids -- and not over the course of seconds, but over the course of hours. This leads to some exciting action among bidding and really changes the game when it comes to strategy in an auction setting.  

AUCTION REVIEW:

We won’t hash through all of the results as they can be found at this link:

Rather, we’ll take a look at some of the key items from the event and discuss the implications of one particular auction in detail. With that, let’s look at the items themselves. 

Ben Kenobi Double Telescoping MOC $76,700 The crème de la crème of the auction was the first of three MOC double telescoping figures that will be auctioned off across the series of auctions. With examples selling for six figures in the past year, this actually wasn’t the biggest head-turner of the event from a results perspective. It was however the highest priced item at the end of the auction and a great item to see in an environment like this, as most of these aren’t sold through public auctions or eBay, but rather through high end dealers and collectors. Needless to say, having a MOC DT of Ben is an incredible sight, rarely seen, very sought after, and ultimately extremely valuable in the world of Star Wars toys.


Anakin Skywalker Dynacast Painted Charcoal Gray Hardcopy $34,981.10 Not to be confused with its more common first shot counterpart, this painted dynacast hardcopy is the envy of many prototype collectors. The price seems to be a bit high, but then again its rarity and desirability make it a unique piece especially in the “up” market that we’re seeing in the pre-production realm.


Boba Fett AFA80 Trilogo MOC – $11,682 We can’t say enough about how cool of a piece this is. Its Trilogo, it has an unpainted knee, and it’s Fett -- all things that lead to appreciation in value and high prices. A beautiful piece in incredible condition with a price tag that would choke a goat, it was great to see this reach a high mark.


Lando Calrissian POTF Hand-Cut Proof Card AFA90 $5,717.69 Given its rarity, this may have been one of the best “deals” of the day if there were any deals to be had. A cut card from the POTF line with no backer printed on it, it may not be one-of-a-kind but it can’t be far from it.  


Stormtrooper ESB 31-Back Proof Card AFA90 – $8,047.60 Although you can buy them in droves as loose figures, when it comes to pre-production, Stormtrooper proofs can be some of the rarest and most expensive. In the ROTJ line the 65A which is the most common proof with a few examples of each character in existence, the Stormtrooper is one of two that only have 2-3 examples known. When you look at the rarity of the 31-Back proofs, this piece along with a few other characters fits into a class all its own in terms of scarcity and demand, thus it was no surprise that this went for big money.


Darth Vader Revenge of the Jedi Proof Card AFA85 – $4,283.40 With a strong ending price, this Revenge Vader proof is one item that continues to go up and up in value over time, in this case passing recent auctions for Boba Fett Revenge proofs in terms of the final price. The Dark Lord of the Sith is one of the most recognizable characters in all of cinema and in the past few years the piece has really risen in value.


The Surprises:

Greedo AFA80 21-Back $1,535 – Kind of crazy, as when you put in the buyer’s premium someone could have bought three of these for the same price on eBay in a given month.


ISP-6 Mini-Rig AFA85 – $1,534 For years I’ve been telling people in the hobby that the ROTJ line is the superior line of the Star Wars series and finally I have proof (J/K). Here I think we have the case of someone struggling to find the grade they wanted and throwing out a crazy number thinking no one will actually bid this up. Then again, MOC Boushh figures have sold for nearly $2K in the past few years, so maybe ROTJ mini-rigs are the next big thing.


Imperial Forces AFA75 Action Figure 3-Pack – $17,133 With all the buzz surrounding this series of auctions, two things seem to be talked about more then anything. First, the fact that examples of all three DT MOC figures will be up for grabs. Second, that an entire set of 3-packs will be up for grabs. Given the latter, I think we have a case of someone really needing to complete a full run as the price here is absurd! Now this is one of the most popular of the 3-packs, but it’s not one of the rarest, and in 75 condition it’s not that great overall. Thus, it’s easy to say that this went way above its actual value; more so than the ISP-6, but not as much as the auction we have yet to discuss.       


Beyond Shocked…..

It goes without saying in auctions like this that something will end up going for crazy amounts of money comparative to their actual value or historical sales prices. While some things are surprising, others just jump into a complete league of their own, and no this doesn’t have anything to do with Madonna, Rosie O’Donnell, or Tom Hanks with a drinking problem...

To close up, let’s look at the auction that has caused so much commotion on social media. Let’s look at the craziest of the crazy, the auction that produced a number that is way out in left field on that thin border that separates the world of the norm from the world of the extreme. Of course, I’m talking about a term we’ve come to use many times on the MarketWatch over the years: the lunatic fringe.

 Luke Skywalker AFA95 12-Back $50,622 The result of this auction poses an interesting question: “What will someone pay for the best condition example of the most iconic Star Wars toy of all time?” The answer is a boatload. I mean that in a literal sense, as you could literally buy a boat and fill it with cash for what someone dropped here.



It’s hard to argue against the notion that the most desirable of all of the original Star Wars toys was Luke Skywalker. He’s the main hero of the movie. His surname and its lineage became the link that will connect 9 movies in the franchise together. And although Vader is probably the most recognizable figure in the Trilogy, Luke was the focal point of the first three movies and his struggle is still regarded by many to be the key thread that pulls the Skywalker saga together.     

I can’t say it’s with no surprise that we saw this piece reach astronomical levels. In fact, without getting into the details I have to say the number is crazy for any long time collector. But let’s look at some of the underlying implications, both with the results and what this could mean for the future of these auctions and the hobby as whole.

We’ve already established the fact that a MOC 12-Back Luke is probably the most commonly sought after piece among MOC collectors in the hobby historically. (Yes, I know that most of you reading this are only interested in foreign double telescoping bootlegs of characters that were never produced, but please humor me here.)

Taking that point into the equation, let’s take a minute to focus on the condition. Needless to say, there isn’t a lot of transactional data around AFA sales above the grade of 90, and of what is out there most are loose figures and proofs. Given this lack of specific data, honing in on similar auctions is difficult, if not impossible. However, there was one example that I was able to pull from this past year. In order to go deeper than this, we move to the next best thing available to us in terms of comparative information from other AFA95 auctions and data from other high grade auctions.  

Earlier this summer some eyes rolled when an AFA95 Yoda sold on eBay for $1,981 -- a figure that that traditionally sells for $4-$500 in AFA80 condition. This gives us a good baseline for the Luke figure in question. This Luke example is a 12C-Back figure and an AFA80 condition usually sells in the $1,500-$2,000 range. Taking the high end of that estimate, we find that our AFA95 brought a 25X lift over its AFA80 brethren. Quite the stretch as we only saw a 4X lift on the Yoda figure.    

Similarly, this summer we also saw an AFA95 Chewbacca 45-Back proof card sell for just over $2K. Given that 90 grade proofs are more attainable (comparatively speaking), we assume that the increase here wouldn’t be that much. In fact, in the past year we’ve actually seen AFA90 examples of a Chewbacca 45-Back proof sell for more than what we saw with the auction for the 95. 

The elasticity of price with items that are clustered around a specific grade such as proof cards has historically lead to only marginally higher prices achieved for those pieces. Thus, an AFA 80, 85, and 90 proof card of the same character and type may only have a 20-30% difference between the 80 and 90 examples. On the inverse, the spread on a MOC figure is much higher with a sometimes 50-100% difference between those same grades. In short, the elasticity of price relative to the type of collectible varies dramatically, and in the world of Star Wars, MOCs do traditionally have the widest spread.  

The aforementioned Chewbacca proof auction illustrates a point in lack of variance in price, however there’s another underlying implication that we can look at when it comes to these results, and it’s a point that a lot of collectors miss: it’s not just about the price and condition, sometimes it’s about the forum. In the case of the AFA95 Chewbacca proof, the item was sold on eBay, while the 90 proof that sold for nearly twice as much sold at Celebration. Thus, the biggest difference was the selling environment. It changes the customer’s mindset, and it potentially brings new buyers to the table by creating a different sense of urgency. In the case of the $50K Luke Skywalker, I have to believe that the forum had a profound impact on the end result.

With all of this in mind, I return to the question I posed at the beginning of the discussion on this piece: how much is the best condition example of the most recognizable/iconic figure in the line truly worth, and what is someone willing to pay for it? Well, it’s going to vary...I know that’s not the answer a lot of you want to hear, but the fact of the matter is there are so many factors that play into an auction price that it’s almost impossible to point a finger at one number. Rather, we have to look at all of the factors in this situation playing together to create the perfect storm that produced a historic high and should be seen as a win in the hobby no matter what your opinion is on the actual results.  

My personal perspective in technical terms is that this was the most insane price ever realized for an item based on its rarity, availability, and condition and it will probably never be repeated. That’s one person’s opinion. What do you think? Post here or on social media at our Facebook page with thoughts on the auctions, and what they mean for the hobby. Was it a fluke, or the new trend...

That’s all for this round, check back in a January for our year-end round up!

Wampa Wampa,
"Fratastic" Pete

Tuesday, April 28, 2015

'Chive Cast 61 - "SWCA" Live: Han and Obi-Wan's Revenge


Recorded live at Celebration Anaheim, it’s the 61st 'Chive Cast! In this episode we catch up with a couple of "1st 12" focus collectors we missed the first time around as Ross Barr talks Han Solo and David Carr talks Obi-Wan. Plus, we have a live-from-the-show-floor MarketWatch with "Fratastic" Pete himself. We also hear briefly from Trevor "Tweeter Dooder" Hoppers and past guest Jason West, who both provide revised answers to the existential lightning round question.




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Wednesday, March 11, 2015

February '15 MarketWatch: Buying in Bulk

Pete writes:

Happy Spring Space Freaks! Hoping all of you are doing well coming out of the Holidays and the coldest month of Winter. The market as is usual had a very strong month in January with a lot of great unique items coming on the scene in the month, as well as strong prices for a lot of staples in our hobby. Thus, whether you were looking for something niche or just to upgrade or acquire something new on the production side, this was definitely a good month to do that.  

With Celebration Anaheim only just about 5 weeks away as of today I’m expecting to see a bit of a lull in the market leading up to the first few weeks of April. I’ll be bringing you some live coverage of Celebration Anaheim including items from the floor, room sales and one off transactions that I’m privy too. With the new movie coming out and the general excitement that comes along with each Celebration, we’re sure to see some amazing items and all time high prices coming out of the event.

This month I have a handful of auctions to look at with the theme being "collections."  Lots and collections come up regularly on eBay and we throw them into the mix on the MarketWatch every so often, but after seeing an up tick in the month of January and December I thought we’d just focus on some of these instant collections. It’s amazing what some of these sets go for and the value that some people realize in purchasing in bulk. There were literally dozens of notable collections sold in January through early February and here we bring together just a small sampling. We’ll take a look at what some loose runs go for these days, including a full set of the first 79/92 figures. In addition, we’ll switch over to the packaged world with some MOC lots, most notably a steal on a set of the first 77 MOC.

So let’s begin our coverage with where the line started -- the Original 12. Here we have a set of the Original 12 graded by AFA. The varying grades lead way to what is actually a pretty palatable price point. You have figures that would be worth roughly $3-400 loose along with grading costs of $18 a figure ($216 for all 12), leading way to a total of $850, a little high for what you might expect but in the given market not out of this world by any measure. 

AFA Graded Set of First 12 - $850
[auction link no longer available- sorry!]





We go from average to a little out of control. Whether you love or hate AFA, most everyone agrees that U-grading (removing items from the package for loose grading) is a horrible practice. In some cases it can be seen as legitimate when a figure's packaging is in pretty abysmal condition, however even that is considered a faux pas to a large portion of the collecting community. U-grading drives up the value of a lot of loose figures given the fact that these items have literally never been touched by human hands outside of the factory and the graders at AFA. This increases demand as a niche group of collectors gravitate towards this segment of collecting. Whether you like the practice or not, it does create a premium with loose figures that didn’t exist before the practice arose. Thus, no matter how hard people fight it, this practice will be around for the foreseeable future.

Outside of the U-grades themselves, what we have here is a pretty interesting little collection. Not only do we have the first 21 figures, we also have a lot of variants of these figures, and a store display for the first 21. One aspect that is somewhat comforting is the fact that some of the figure variants were never released during the original Star Wars run, so we can take some solace in knowing that these weren’t all pulled from 12 and 21 back cards, and that some did come from ESB and ROTJ cardbacks. Included in the set of variants are the three different hair colors of Farmboy Luke Skywalker, Tusken Raider with hollow cheeks, Walrusman (pink and white), Jawa (small hood and large hood), and Ben Kenobi (grey and white hair). Overall a nice representation for variant collectors but with a hefty price tag, ten times that of our starting auction.
AFA 90 Loose Lot $10,000 
Star Wars First 21+ Variants U Graded Set





Going from loose to MOC, we have our first of two auctions which were steals when it comes to buying in bulk. This auction is for 16 of the first 21 MOC with a price tag of $3,000 -- quite a bit shy of what Jordan charged one of his customers on Toy Hunter last year for the first 12 plus three 21 backs and well below the market average. The auction itself was won with a best offer and whomever got to it first surely reaped the rewards of staying on their eBay game getting these figures for an average of $187.50 each. Another auction that shows that there’s value in the hobby if you continue to stay on the key sites like eBay, as these figures graded could easily go for $7-10,000.  
Lot of 16 MOC from first 21 - $3,000
Lot of 16 of First 21 MOC



If our last auction didn’t blow your mind this one surely will: the entire run of the first 77 figures MOC on their debut cardbacks for $6,500 --  that’s right, less than $85 a piece ($84.41 to be exact). Now let me start by saying something does seem strange when you look at the listing, it’s a first time eBayer based on the feedback, and the BIN is extremely low. This does raise some questions: was this a scam? Were there fakes? Did the transaction go down smoothly?  All of which are completely valid questions given the spread between fair market value and what they actually sold for. I did contact the seller for comment but never saw a response. They could be in hiding, or just simply to embarrassed that they let a $30,000 set of figures go for 1/6th of the value. Nonetheless, let’s assume that everything was on the up and up. This would be proof positive that there are still some ways to get deep into the hobby without breaking the bank and that those who are diligent with keeping an eye on the market can make a huge score.
First 77 MOC - $6,500
First 77 MOC




              
Finishing up the month we have the largest and most expensive of the collections featured. This one's a bit less focused than others but impressive nonetheless. 90 MOC figures for an estimated $16,500, or $183 per figure. This is a great representation of someone's hard work in trying to assemble a full run of MOC figures that spans the full series from ANH to POTF. The figures in the collection are in a variety of different conditions, with a mix of graded and ungraded items. The set includes variants of certain cardbacks and a nearly complete representation of the full line. It's a great view and ultimately a great buy given the per figure cost of $183 a piece, really a steal when you think about the breadth of the collection including several 12 backs, 20 backs and POTF figures, all which carry average MOC prices of well over $200 a piece (depending on condition). Collections like this make me ask why someone would part with something like this; it seemed so close but just not there. Regardless of the reason, the collector and buyer should be proud of what was put together as it truly is a great representation of one collector's hard work and another's awesome find.
90 Figure MOC Collection - $16,500
Mixed collection of Graded and Ungraded MOC

That wraps up the update for February, check back shortly for our March update featuring single items sold in the month of January and February.  

Wampa Wampa,
FB24